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March 5

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message received today 5 MAR 2020

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"Hello, I'm Tolly4bolly. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Boisdale, Victoria have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the help desk. Tolly4bolly 09:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)"

I have never contributed to wikipedia and am not registered with wikipedia in any way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.152.106.78 (talk) 23:33, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That message is dated November 2019. IP addresses can be assigned to different computers at different times. You can avoid things like this by creating an account, so that only your edits are attributed to you. See WP:ACCOUNT for other reasons a registered account may be a good idea. RudolfRed (talk) 23:44, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
1.152.106.78, that message was probably written because someone else made edits to Boisdale, Victoria from the same IP address as you. The IP address is probably shared, so it's being used from multiple computers, which do not necessarily have to be in the same location. This IP address is all Wikipedia knows about who made the edits, so it can't know whether it was the same actual person. JIP | Talk 13:10, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

valve turning

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howdy, i don't do much on wikipedia, though i love it. i was shocked that i couldn't find a page for valve turning. it could become vitally important information for people to have, especially if our politics fails to produce a democratic nation this election cycle (PS, referring to USA). how could i request a new page? thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.192.242.192 (talk) 01:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can request an article(not just "page") at Requested Articles, but the backlog is so severe that it might never be done. If you have independent reliable sources with significant coverage of the subject, you would be better off creating the article yourself using Articles for Creation(though you should read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 01:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
thanks, i made a request there. this entry here could be deleted, if anyone knows how. thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.192.242.192 (talk) 20:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

the following page needs attention but I don't know how to use this website

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"China Foundation for the Alleviation of Policy" is a textbook example of what a wikipedia entry should not be. I was surprised when I found out it had been posted in 2011 (maybe early 20002, but again, I can hardly navigate the editing process, so I'm not sure), edited in the last few years. There was what looked to be one comment in the talk section pleading for the entry to not receive a "speedy deletion". It was all very...odd. What I wrote (which I accidently entered on the editing page) was that the entire posting read like an advertisement. It needs citations, facts and data. Its adjectives and superlatives sound like hyperbole and the first person singular, throughout, is not only poor writing for an encyclopedia, but it directly contradicts one of the arguments in the talk section's comment: that the writers are not employed by the company, nor Chinese, but rather students from Singapore writing a class assignment on little-known Chinese organisations whose very legitimacy hangs on the entry not being deleted, but rather assisted by edits from others in the community. Seems like these 'students' could have at least attempted to clean it up since 2011! Again, very odd. It is even cross-referenced on a link under the wikipedia entry 'GONGOs' 71.11.254.3 (talk) 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you mean China Foundation for Poverty Alleviation. General Ization Talk 04:21, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree – almost all its many sections are unreferenced. Maproom (talk) 08:32, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion the article should be deleted entirely, but I'm willing to give it time to improve. It's overwhelmingly promotional, with hardly any references. By far the most of the text was written by two editors, neither of whom has edited any other article. It was nominated for speedy deletion at the age of six minutes but that was contested, and now it's been there for nine years without much improvement. JIP | Talk 09:52, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Restore Account

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Hi, My old account was User:Boothsift where I have new page reviewer, pending changes reviewer, and rollback rights. Is it possible if I could regain my rights on this account? I have attempted to restore my account by emailing Wikimedia to no avail and this was their suggestion.

Thank you, --Boothsift New (talk) 05:42, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Boothsift New, as permissions are granted by admins, and I imagine there has to be some way to confirm the accounts are connected, you might want to post this onto wp:AN. ~~ Alex Noble - talk 09:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove my account

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This is to complex for me. I thank the two people who responded but editing is not for me if I have to add publishing citations for a theatre production in London (when it was advertised in all the UK and London papers) and/or constantly refer to American sources. I copied the wording of the previous RSC production tha thad no source publication. Why would the RSC need this? Perhaps this is the difference between the UK and USA. I am grateful this was pointed out but I do not wish to be a wiki editor. Please remove my account. Thanks --Mrs Nemo (talk) 08:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We don't (and cannot) remove accounts. Just stop using it. Meters (talk) 08:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Why would material added to any article need to have a reliable, published source? This is explained in "WP:OR" and elsewhere (and there is no difference between UK and US practice). Wikipedia in no way values US over British sources (although it values good sources from any nation over not-so-good sources from any other nation). Everything you have written in Wikipedia (for example, your comment immediately above) is licensed under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL. Removing your account wouldn't be compatible with either, and therefore your account can't be removed. If you don't wish to edit Wikipedia, that's a pity; however, the solution is simple: don't edit Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 08:38, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that the reviews in the British papers(especially the Times, the Guardian or the Independent) or even the adverts would be good references although I would be willing to be corrected on the latter.Spinney Hill (talk) 09:17, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Spinney Hill: - the reviews in major publications like those would be excellent sources. The adverts would definitely not be as fundamentally non-independent Nosebagbear (talk) 10:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Need help formatting (Frege: Philosophy of Language)

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Hello, I need help with the citations at Frege: Philosophy of Language. The article has three citations currently - Lowe 2005, Lowe 2017, and Scruton 1994. The second two are working properly - when you click on them, they take you to the relevant source in the "Bibliography" section. In the case of the first citation (Lowe 2005), for some reason this doesn't happen. I have no idea why. Can anyone show me how to fix this? Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 10:51, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The {{cite book}} needed ref=harv. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Apparently I just wasn't looking carefully enough. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 11:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help me please

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The page I want to upload is rejected even if I am within the standards of the community, the admin that is deleting the page is not giving me any reason for this. It is a wiki page of a very well known Romanian Booking agent. What should I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexandruN1 (talkcontribs) 14:32, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AlexandruN1 Other than the above comment, there are no other edits associated with your account, deleted or otherwise, so I am unable to look at your draft to give you feedback. Could you link to it? 331dot (talk) 14:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot

it's about this last update I've written for the official Wikipedia page of Radu Groza

https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radu_Groza https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discu%C8%9Bie_Utilizator:AlexandruN1#%E2%96%A0%E2%96%A0_V%C4%83_rug%C4%83m%2C_nu_mai_crea%C8%9Bi_pagini_nepotrivite — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexandruN1 (talkcontribs) 15:36, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AlexandruN1 This is the Help Desk for the English Wikipedia; you will have to seek assistance on the version of Wikipedia those drafts are on. 331dot (talk) 15:39, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If I want to convert half a mile to kilometres, the template results in zero point five miles (0.80km); is there any way of avoiding the clumsy "zero point five" and getting "half a mile", d'you think? ——SN54129 15:07, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Serial Number 54129:{{convert|1/2|mi|km|spell=in}} gives one-half mile (0.80 km). Not quite what you were looking for, though. Cheers  hugarheimur 15:55, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Torana, thanks for that—yes, it's not "perfect" (what is!), but it's certainly better, far better, than what I had. Thanks very much for the swift response and help, it's greatly appreciated! ——SN54129 21:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi There,

I recently tried to add a link to the Slieve League section of wikipedia https://www.slieveleague.com/tilinncafe but it got removed.

I want to provide information on Ti Linn cafe as it is a great addition to sleive league and its surround areas. Can you please let me know why this happened and how I can add the link in for future references?

I look forward to hearing back from you.

Kind regards, Jennifer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JenniferTD123 (talkcontribs) 15:50, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JenniferTD123 You didn't just try to add a link, your text was a blatant advertisement. Please understand that Wikipedia is not a place to just provide information. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about subjects. Wikipedia is also not a place to just post links to anything and everything associated with a subject. 331dot (talk) 15:53, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Need your advice (article)

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I have found Isabel Marant's name - a famous fashion designer, definitely notable - among red links. There's a page for her eponymous fashion brand - Isabel Marant. I was wondering should I create a separate page for her biography (Isabel Marant (designer)) or add it to the brands page? If it's the latter - should the article be renamed? Can you please help me on this. Thank you in advance! Less Unless (talk) 18:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC) P.S. The information I have gathered is more than a stub-amount (in case it matters). Less Unless (talk) 18:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's two ways to handle it, and I can't really decide how, because I don't have a background. Obviously, we want two different articles (one on the company, one on the person, similar to how Charles Schwab Corporation is a different article than Charles R. Schwab. Naming could be tricky here, but we have a few options we could go with:
  • Per WP:NATURALDIS, does the fashion house have a more formal name, like "Isabel Marant, Inc." or "Isabel Marant, LLC" or something like that? Using a more formal name provides a natural way to distinguish between the person and the corporation, and we could move the current article to THAT name, and use the unadorned name for the person. Alternately, if Isabel Marant had a middle name or middle initial, perhaps that could be used to naturally disambiguate her name from that of the company.
  • We could use parenthetical disambiguation, calling one of them, say, Isabel Marant (designer) and leaving the other at the company, or calling one Isabel Marant (fashion house), and leaving the bio at the unadorned name.
Regardless of which way we go, we generally want to place the more recognizable entity at the unadorned name, with a hatnote to point to the other name, in case people were looking for the other entity. If it's a "close call" or it isn't clear which way to go, WP:BOLD advises to just do what you think is best, and if no one objects, carry on. --Jayron32 20:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Jayron32: thanks you so much, very helpful! I'll go through the to-do you mentioned, look at the similar cases in fashion and make a decision. Thanks again!Less Unless (talk) 21:23, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Changing the title/name of an entry

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Hello!

I'd like to put in a request to change the title/headline for the "National Board of Medical Examiners" entry to simply "NBME." This matches our new website nbme.org.

Best,

Nicole Fortuna — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.207.85.8 (talk) 18:29, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nicole: Has the name of the organization changed, or just the branding on the website? I ask because when I go to http://nbme.org I can see clearly, at the bottom of the page where it says "Have any questions", the full name of the organization is spelled out. It seems to me, based on that, that the organization name is still "National Board of Medical Examiners", and that the abbreviated name is just used to make the website easier to find. Can you clarify or show us any documentation that shows that the organization has changed its name? --Jayron32 18:34, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) You may make a request at requested moves, but unless the abbreviation is now the most common name of the organization, I'm not sure such a request will be accepted.
Since you represent the organization, please review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on some required disclosures you must make. 331dot (talk) 18:37, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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I accidentally clicked on a hyperlink and now it doesn't present a drop-down description on the link. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.181.194.40 (talk) 20:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please be more specific. Which link on which page? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:05, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

my article could not get any publishment process since more than 1 month

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Hi There,

I think I am sure that my article has no problem and fits the regulations and rules of wikipedia, however it did not get any publication process.

Could you check it for me, I posted the link below

My best regards

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Intellectualwriter/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intellectualwriter (talkcontribs) 21:11, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Intellectualwriter: That reads more like a resume than an encyclopedia article. I suggest looking at WP:YFA for guidance on how to create an article and then you can use the wizard there to create a draft for review. RudolfRed (talk) 21:16, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Intellectualwriter: You might also try this guide on how to write articles that won't be rejected. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:54, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]